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七万五千字辞职信背后:钉钉换帅,与阿里的自我拷问

DingTalk CEO Leaves With 75,000-Character Letter

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Advanced Chinese listening practice. The full story of the DingTalk resignation-letter saga: Teng Yaxin's 'Inside DingTalk', Ma Ruila's echo from 'Outside DingTalk', Alibaba's Partners Committee rebuke, Chen Hang's exit and Chen Yusen's rise, the AI reorganization behind it, and the question that cuts at every overworked person: are we creating value, or just performing effort? HSK 5-6 Chinese listening practice.

This is an HSK 5-6 Chinese listening episode that runs about 6 minutes. The full Mandarin script is shown with tap-for-pinyin and a line-by-line English translation, so you can listen and read at once — comprehensible input in the sense of Stephen Krashen's i+1 theory. It teaches 14 key vocabulary words such as 辞职信、商业、网络 and walks through 7 grammar patterns, each explained in English with examples. The same news story is retold at 4 difficulty levels — use the level selector above to find the version that is challenging but still understandable for you.

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今天我们聊一件,这几天在中国互联网上几乎刷屏的事。
一封辞职信,掀翻了一家大公司的 CEO。
故事的主角,是钉钉。
钉钉你大概率不陌生。
在中国,它几乎是职场人每天都要打开的工具。
发消息、开视频会、打卡、审批,全都在上面。
你可以把它理解成一个"公司版的微信"。
而钉钉的背后,是阿里巴巴。
也就是中国最大的互联网公司之一。
事情的起点,是一个人。
他叫滕雅辛,花名"幽素"。
他是钉钉一个核心 AI 产品的产品经理。
这个 AI 产品,曾经做到过每天三百万活跃用户。
听起来很成功。
但是后来,这个项目,被一步步收缩、砍掉了。
6月4日,滕雅辛选择了离开。
他在阿里的内部网络上,发了一封辞职长文。
题目叫《置身钉内》。
这封信,足足有七万五千字。
这个长度,已经不是一封普通的辞职信了。
它更像是一份完整的复盘报告。
他把那个 AI 项目,从立项、爆发、到最后收场,
完完整整地写了下来。
他用了很多隐晦的、带点文学色彩的说法,
但是核心指向非常清楚。
第一,团队里弥漫着一种"向上讨好"的文化。
大家做事,第一位的不是用户,
而是让领导满意。
第二,内部恶性竞争严重,互相内耗。
第三,很多决策,靠的是领导的个人喜好,
而不是真正的战略判断。
第四,是无意义的加班,和随之而来的集体倦怠。
这封信发出来之后,在阿里内部迅速传开。
很多员工的反应是:
"他写的,就是我们的日常。
6月8日,又有一个重量级的人物站了出来。
钉钉前副总裁、AI 产品负责人马锐拉,
在自己的公众号上,
发了一篇呼应的文章,题目叫《置身钉外》。
他证实了滕雅辛描述的种种状况。
他还说了一句很扎心的话。
他说,他那段时间一度分不清,
自己到底是在创造产品,
还是只是在精疲力竭地,
追赶一个永远在后退的节奏。
这两篇文章,一内一外,互相印证。
舆论彻底被点燃了。
6月10日,阿里巴巴的合伙人委员会,
专门发了一篇内部回应。
题目意味深长,
大意是:有情有义、有成长,才是阿里该有的文化。
这等于是阿里最高层,
公开否定了钉钉这套管理方式。
而真正的重头戏,在6月11日。
阿里宣布,钉钉 CEO 陈航卸任。
陈航这个名字,懂行的人都知道。
他花名"无招"。
钉钉这个产品,最早就是他一手带出来的。
可以说,他是钉钉的灵魂人物。
后来他离开过一次。
2025年3月,他又回归,重新执掌钉钉。
但是这一次回归,只持续了四百多天。
如今,再度离场。
接替他的,是一个相当年轻的人,叫陈宇森。
他出生于1992年,今年才三十四岁。
一举成为阿里最年轻的事业部 CEO。
陈宇森不是普通人。
他22岁就创业,做的是网络安全。
公司后来被阿里云收购。
2025年,他又做出了一款 AI Agent 产品,
在海外四十多个国家都有用户,
据说很快就跑通了商业模式。
所以阿里选他,信号其实很明确:
要用一个更懂 AI、更像创业者的年轻人,
来给钉钉换血。
说到这里,我们退后一步,看看更大的图景。
钉钉换帅,并不是一个孤立事件。
它是阿里这一整年,
围绕 AI 进行组织大调整的一部分。
旧的、按部门和职能划分的架构,
正在被打散、重组。
那么,这件事到底给我们留下了什么?
我想,至少有两点,值得我们记住。
第一点,是关于真话的力量。
一个没有职级、没有权力的产品经理,
仅仅是认真地、完整地,写下了他看到的真相。
就撬动了一家万亿市值公司的人事变动。
这在任何时代,都是稀有的。
它提醒我们:真相本身,是有重量的。
只是大多数时候,
我们都选择了沉默,
因为说真话,往往要付出代价。
第二点,是关于人和效率的。
滕雅辛信里最痛的一句,
其实不是骂谁,
而是那个问题:
我们这么忙、这么累,
到底是在创造价值,
还是只是在表演努力?
这个问题,不只是问钉钉的。
它问的是今天每一个,
在格子间里、在工位上、
深夜还在加班的普通人。
所以节目最后,我想把这个问题,留给你。
回想你最近的工作和生活。
你所做的那些事,
那些让你忙到喘不过气的事,
有多少,是真的在创造价值?
又有多少,
只是在追赶一个,
永远在后退的节奏?
这个问题,没有标准答案。
但是值得你,为自己,认真想一想。
English transcript reference

Today we'll talk about something that has basically flooded the Chinese internet these past few days.

A resignation letter toppled a big company's CEO.

The protagonist of the story is DingTalk.

You're probably not unfamiliar with DingTalk.

In China, it's a tool that working people open almost every day.

Sending messages, video meetings, clocking in, approvals — it's all on there.

You can think of it as a 'corporate version of WeChat'.

And behind DingTalk is Alibaba.

That is, one of China's largest internet companies.

The starting point of this whole thing is one person.

His name is Teng Yaxin; his nickname is 'Yousu'.

He was the product manager of one of DingTalk's core AI products.

This AI product once reached three million daily active users.

It sounds successful.

But later, this project was step by step scaled back and cut.

On June 4, Teng Yaxin chose to leave.

On Alibaba's internal network, he posted a long resignation essay.

Titled 'Inside DingTalk'.

This letter ran a full seventy-five thousand characters.

At that length, it's no longer an ordinary resignation letter.

It's more like a complete retrospective report.

He wrote out that AI project — from inception, to explosion, to its final end —

completely and in full.

He used many oblique, somewhat literary turns of phrase,

but the core thrust was very clear.

First, the team was steeped in a culture of 'pleasing those above'.

When people did their work, the first priority wasn't the user,

but satisfying the leaders.

Second, vicious internal competition was severe; people wore each other down.

Third, many decisions were based on leaders' personal preferences,

rather than genuine strategic judgment.

Fourth, there was meaningless overtime, and the collective burnout that came with it.

After this letter came out, it spread rapidly inside Alibaba.

Many employees' reaction was:

'What he wrote is exactly our daily life.'

On June 8, another heavyweight figure stepped forward.

Ma Ruila, DingTalk's former vice president and head of AI products,

on his own public account,

posted an echoing article, titled 'Outside DingTalk'.

He confirmed the various conditions Teng Yaxin described.

He also said something piercing.

He said that during that period he could, at one point, no longer tell

whether he was actually creating a product,

or just, utterly exhausted,

chasing a pace that was forever receding.

These two articles — one inside, one outside — corroborated each other.

Public opinion was completely set ablaze.

On June 10, Alibaba's Partners Committee

specifically posted an internal response.

The title was meaningful,

roughly: 'Warmth, loyalty, and growth — that's the culture Alibaba should have.'

This amounted to Alibaba's highest level

publicly rejecting DingTalk's style of management.

And the real main event was on June 11.

Alibaba announced that DingTalk CEO Chen Hang was stepping down.

The name Chen Hang — people in the know all recognize it.

His nickname is 'Wuzhao'.

DingTalk, the product, was originally built single-handedly by him.

You could say he is DingTalk's soul.

Later, he left once.

In March 2025, he returned and took the helm of DingTalk again.

But this return lasted only a little over four hundred days.

Now, he departs once more.

Taking his place is a fairly young person, named Chen Yusen.

He was born in 1992, and is only thirty-four this year.

In one stroke he became Alibaba's youngest business-unit CEO.

Chen Yusen is no ordinary person.

At 22 he started a company, doing cybersecurity.

His company was later acquired by Alibaba Cloud.

In 2025, he made an AI Agent product,

with users in over forty countries abroad,

and reportedly found a working business model quickly.

So Alibaba choosing him sends a very clear signal:

to use a younger person — more fluent in AI, more like an entrepreneur —

to give DingTalk a transfusion of new blood.

Speaking of which, let's step back and look at the bigger picture.

DingTalk's leadership change is not an isolated event.

It's part of Alibaba's whole-year

major organizational restructuring around AI.

The old architecture, divided by department and function,

is being broken up and recombined.

So, what exactly does this leave us with?

I think there are at least two points worth remembering.

The first point is about the power of truth.

A product manager with no rank and no power,

simply, earnestly, and completely, wrote down the truth he saw.

And it moved the personnel of a trillion-dollar company.

In any era, that is rare.

It reminds us: the truth itself has weight.

It's just that, most of the time,

we all choose silence,

because telling the truth often comes at a cost.

The second point is about people and efficiency.

The most painful line in Teng Yaxin's letter

wasn't actually cursing anyone,

but that question:

We're this busy, this tired —

are we actually creating value,

or just performing effort?

This question isn't only for DingTalk.

It's for every single person today,

in their cubicle, at their desk,

still working overtime late at night.

So at the end of the show, I want to leave this question with you.

Think back on your recent work and life.

The things you do,

the things that keep you so busy you can't breathe —

how many of them are truly creating value?

And how many

are just chasing a pace

that is forever receding?

This question has no standard answer.

But it's worth you, for your own sake, thinking it through seriously.

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What vocabulary does this episode teach?

词汇
cízhí xìnresignation letter

The 75,000-character letter at the heart of the story. 辞职 (resign) + 信 (letter).

shāngyècommerce; commercial

HSK 1-4. commerce; commercial.

wǎngluòthe internet; network

HSK 1-4. the internet; network.

gōngjùtool

HSK 1-4. tool.

biāozhǔnstandard

HSK 1-4. standard.

xiàolǜefficiency

HSK 1-4. efficiency.

héxīncore / nucleus

HSK 1-4. core / nucleus.

xiānfānto overturn; topple

一封辞职信,掀翻了一家大公司的 CEO = a resignation letter toppled a big company's CEO.

fùpánretrospective; post-mortem review

更像是一份完整的复盘报告 = more like a complete retrospective report. Originally a Go/chess term, now common in business.

xiàng shàng tǎohǎopleasing those above; sucking up

一种'向上讨好'的文化 = a culture of pleasing superiors. 讨好 = to curry favor.

nèihàointernal friction; infighting

互相内耗 = wearing each other down internally. 内 (internal) + 耗 (consume).

juécèdecision-making

HSK 6. 很多决策,靠的是领导的个人喜好 = many decisions relied on leaders' personal preferences.

juàndàiburnout; exhaustion

集体倦怠 = collective burnout.

yúlùnpublic opinion

舆论彻底被点燃了 = public opinion was completely set ablaze.

* beyond level超纲词

What grammar patterns appear in this episode?

语法

你可以把 X 理解成 Y (you can understand X as Y)

A framing device — gives the listener an analogy for an unfamiliar thing.

你可以把它理解成一个'公司版的微信'。

第一 ... 第二 ... 第三 ... 第四 ... (enumeration)

Ordinal listing — structures a multi-point argument.

第一,团队里弥漫着一种'向上讨好'的文化。

第二,内部恶性竞争严重。

第四,是无意义的加班。

不是 X,而是 Y (not X, but Y)

Strong correction, central to the letter's argument.

第一位的不是用户,而是让领导满意。

其实不是骂谁,而是那个问题。

这等于是 + Clause (this amounts to)

Interpretive marker — restates an action's real meaning.

这等于是阿里最高层,公开否定了钉钉这套管理方式。

Subject + 到底 + 是 ... 还是 ...? (after all, X or Y?)

Sharpened either-or question for rhetorical weight.

自己到底是在创造产品,还是只是在精疲力竭地,追赶一个永远在后退的节奏。

到底是在创造价值,还是只是在表演努力?

仅仅 + Verb,就 + Result (merely X, and Y followed)

Emphasizes a large outcome from a small action.

仅仅是认真地、完整地,写下了他看到的真相。就撬动了一家万亿市值公司的人事变动。

值得 + Subject + Verb (worth doing)

Marks something as worthwhile.

值得我们记住。

但是值得你,为自己,认真想一想。

Proper nouns

专有名词
钉钉DīngdīngDingTalk — China's dominant workplace app, the 'corporate WeChat'滕雅辛Téng YǎxīnTeng Yaxin (nickname 'Yousu') — DingTalk AI product manager; author of the viral resignation letter马锐拉Mǎ RuìlāMa Ruila — DingTalk's former VP and AI product head, who echoed the letter from 'Outside DingTalk'阿里巴巴ĀlǐbābāAlibaba — DingTalk's parent company, one of China's largest internet firms阿里云Ālǐ YúnAlibaba Cloud — Alibaba's cloud division, which acquired Chen Yusen's startup陈航Chén HángChen Hang (nickname 'Wuzhao') — DingTalk's founding figure and outgoing CEO陈宇森Chén YǔsēnChen Yusen — new DingTalk CEO, born 1992, Alibaba's youngest business-unit CEO置身钉内Zhìshēn Dīng Nèi'Inside DingTalk' — the title of Teng Yaxin's 75,000-character resignation letter置身钉外Zhìshēn Dīng Wài'Outside DingTalk' — the title of Ma Ruila's echoing article合伙人委员会Héhuǒrén WěiyuánhuìPartners Committee — Alibaba's senior governing body, which publicly rebuked DingTalk's managementAI AgentAI AgentAI agent — autonomous AI software; Chen Yusen built a successful one before taking over DingTalk

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