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电影里的科技老板:从英雄到反派
Tech Bosses on Film: From Heroes to Villains
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Two hosts disagree about whether this autumn's films about tech bosses, which portray them far more harshly than The Imitation Game of 2014 and The Social Network of 2010, change how people see them. HSK 3 Chinese listening practice.
This is an HSK 3 Chinese listening episode that runs about 4 minutes. The full Mandarin script is shown with tap-for-pinyin and a line-by-line English translation, so you can listen and read at once — comprehensible input in the sense of Stephen Krashen's i+1 theory. It teaches 12 key vocabulary words such as 科技、老板、改变 and walks through 7 grammar patterns, each explained in English with examples. The same news story is retold at 3 difficulty levels — use the level selector above to find the version that is challenging but still understandable for you.
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Yue
你发现没有,今年秋天好几部电影,都在拍科技公司的老板。Xinghe
嗯,发现了。Yue
对。Xinghe
十几年前?Yue
二零一四年有一部电影,叫《模仿游戏》,讲的是图灵。Xinghe
嗯,第二次世界大战的时候,帮着解开德国人密码的那个人。Yue
对,电影把他拍成了一个英雄,Xinghe
嗯。Yue
很多人去看,还得了大奖。Xinghe
可图灵不是老板。Yue
是,他是发明东西的人。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
是好人。Xinghe
那现在呢?Yue
现在你看《社交网络》。Xinghe
那部,那部我看过。Yue
今年十月出了第二部。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
电影跟着一个在Facebook工作过的女人。Xinghe
哦。Yue
电影里的扎克伯格,冷冰冰的。Xinghe
冷冰冰的。Yue
对,一点也不像英雄。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
第一部里,他还只是一个开公司的人,Xinghe
我想说的,就是这一部。Yue
嗯。Xinghe
第二部到现在,大概一千七百万。Yue
一千七百万。Xinghe
不到第一部的十分之一。Yue
这个我承认,看的人少。Xinghe
而且去看的,是哪些人?Yue
你说。Xinghe
本来,本来就不喜欢这些公司的人。Yue
嗯,有道理。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
过几年大家说起扎克伯格,想到的,可能就是电影里那张冷冰冰的脸。Xinghe
哦,那是你。Yue
不只是我。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
是她本人,不是别人演的。Xinghe
哦,那部说是拍得很好。Yue
对,很好。Xinghe
这一部,这一部更能说明我的意思。Yue
怎么说?Xinghe
本来是亚马逊的电影公司要做的。Yue
嗯。Xinghe
就在亚马逊答应给OpenAI投五百亿美元以后没多久。Yue
你是说,是因为钱……Xinghe
嗯……Yue
亚马逊说的是,换一家公司来做更好。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
另一家小一点的公司接了,说今年还会放出来。Xinghe
哦,小一点的公司。Yue
对,小。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
对,拍问题。Xinghe
对,拍问题。Yue
嗯,我也是。Xinghe
你看,Yue
嗯。Xinghe
我们一边用,一边说他们不好。Yue
用他们的东西,跟怎么看他们,是两回事。Xinghe
对这些老板来说,是一回事。English transcript reference
Have you noticed? This autumn, several films are about the bosses of technology companies.
Mm, I have.
Not one of them is a hero.
Right.
I think this is a, a big change.
It wasn't like this ten-odd years ago.
Ten-odd years ago?
In 2014 there was a film called The Imitation Game, about Turing.
Mm, the man who helped break the Germans' codes in the Second World War.
Right, the film made him a hero,
Mm.
Lots of people went to see it, and it won a big award.
But Turing wasn't a boss.
Yes, he was someone who invented things.
But back then, the people in films who worked in technology were changing the world,
Mm.
They were good people.
And now?
Now look at The Social Network.
The first one was from 2010, about how Zuckerberg started Facebook.
That one, I've seen that one.
This October the second one came out.
It's still, still the man who wrote the story for the first one, and this time he made the film himself too.
Mm.
The film follows a woman who used to work at Facebook.
She took the files from inside the company and showed them to everyone,
Oh.
The Zuckerberg in the film is cold.
Cold.
Right, not at all like a hero.
Mm.
In the first one, he was still just someone starting a company,
This one is exactly what I wanted to talk about.
Worldwide, the first one sold about $225 million of tickets,
Mm.
The second one, so far, about 17 million.
17 million.
Less than a tenth of the first one.
Your big change, most people, most people never even went to see it.
I admit that, not many people saw it.
But...
And the people who did go, who are they?
You tell me.
People who already, already didn't like these companies.
Whatever they thought going in, they still think coming out.
Mm, fair point.
But a film isn't finished once you've seen it.
I only knew about Turing because I saw The Imitation Game first.
Mm.
In a few years, when people talk about Zuckerberg, what they think of may be that cold face in the film.
Oh, that's you.
Not just me.
There's another film, about a woman who started a blood-testing company.
Later she went to prison for cheating people.
The film-makers followed her the whole time and filmed the few weeks before she went to prison,
Mm.
It's really her, not someone playing her.
Oh, they say that one is very well made.
Right, very good.
There's one more, about, about the boss of OpenAI, Altman, about how he was suddenly pushed out at the end of 2023.
This one, this one shows what I mean even better.
How so?
Amazon's film company was going to make it.
This June, it didn't want it any more,
Mm.
Not long after Amazon agreed to invest $50 billion in OpenAI.
You mean, it was because of the money...
Mm...
I'm only saying, the big film companies are either owned by technology companies or depend on technology companies' money.
What Amazon said was that it would be better for another company to do it.
And this film didn't die,
Mm.
Another, smaller company took it, and says it will still come out this year.
Oh, a smaller company.
Right, small.
Small, but it still gets out.
Mm.
OK, the films have changed, I agree with that.
Before they filmed heroes, now they film...
Right, problems.
Right, problems.
But the films changed, people didn't.
When I got up this morning, the first thing I did was still look at my phone.
Mm, me too.
See,
Mm.
We keep using it while saying they're bad.
Using their things and how you see them are two different things.
To these bosses, it's the same thing.
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What vocabulary does this episode teach?
词汇HSK 3. Used here before a noun: 科技公司 is a technology company, 科技老板 a technology boss.
HSK 3. The person who owns or runs a company. In this script it means the heads of big technology companies.
HSK 2. A verb: 改变世界 means to change the world.
HSK 3. 发明东西的人 is a person who invents things, an inventor.
HSK 3. Papers or files. Here the internal papers a woman took out of the company.
HSK 3. 一个大变化 means a big change.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. The older films made inventors into heroes; the hosts use it to compare old and new films.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. 冷 cold plus 冰冰 icy. Describes a cold, unfriendly manner, here how a film shows a person's face.
HSK 4. 密 secret plus 码 code. Also the everyday word for a password.
HSK 4. Used when you accept a point the other person made: 这个我承认.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. 道理 is reason or logic. 有道理 is a common way to agree with someone's point.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. Used with 进: 进了监狱 means went to prison.
* beyond level超纲词
What grammar patterns appear in this episode?
语法把 + Object + Verb + 成 + Result
把 moves the object before the verb. Verb + 成 shows what the object is turned into.
电影把他拍成了一个英雄
Verb phrase + 的 + 那个人
A whole verb phrase placed before 的 describes a person: the person who did that.
帮着解开德国人密码的那个人
一点也不 + Adjective / Verb
Means not at all. It makes a negative much stronger.
一点也不像英雄
先……,才……
先 marks the first step, and 才 shows the second thing only happened after it.
我就是先看了《模仿游戏》,才知道图灵的。
因为 + Reason,Result
因为 gives the reason. It can come after the subject, as in 她后来因为……
她后来因为骗人,进了监狱。
一边……,一边……
Two actions happen at the same time, often ones that do not fit together.
我们一边用,一边说他们不好。
A 跟 B 是两回事
Says that A and B are separate matters and should not be mixed up.
用他们的东西,跟怎么看他们,是两回事。
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