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电影里的科技老板:从英雄到反派

Tech Bosses on Film: From Heroes to Villains

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Two hosts disagree about whether this autumn's films about tech bosses, far darker in their portrayal than The Imitation Game of 2014 and The Social Network of 2010, change how people see them. HSK 4 Chinese listening practice.

This is an HSK 4 Chinese listening episode that runs about 3 minutes. The full Mandarin script is shown with tap-for-pinyin and a line-by-line English translation, so you can listen and read at once — comprehensible input in the sense of Stephen Krashen's i+1 theory. It teaches 12 key vocabulary words such as 科技、老板、公开 and walks through 7 grammar patterns, each explained in English with examples. The same news story is retold at 3 difficulty levels — use the level selector above to find the version that is challenging but still understandable for you.

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Xinghe

你上周说,今年秋天的电影,对科技老板的看法变了。
我回去想了想,

Yue

还是不信。

Xinghe

一半信,一半不信。

Yue

嗯,那我先说我为什么信。
二零一四年有一部《模仿游戏》,讲图灵,

Xinghe

帮着破解德国人密码的那个人。

Yue

对,第二次世界大战的时候。
电影把他拍成了英雄,票卖得很好,还拿了电影界最有名的奖。

Xinghe

可图灵是科学家,不是老板。

Yue

对,所以我说的是做科技的人。
那个时候,电影里的他们是在改变世界。

Xinghe

嗯。

Yue

二零一零年还有《社交网络》,讲扎克伯格怎么开始做Facebook,

Xinghe

哦,那部我看过两遍。

Yue

今年十月,它出了续集,接着第一部往下讲。
还是当年写故事的那个人,这次他自己来拍。

Xinghe

哦。

Yue

这一次,主角是一个在Facebook工作过的女人,

Xinghe

嗯。

Yue

她把公司内部的文件公开了。
电影里的扎克伯格,冷冰冰的。

Xinghe

冷,不等于坏。

Yue

不一定。
可是离英雄,离英雄已经很远了。

Xinghe

嗯。
那我说不信的那一半。
这部续集,到现在全世界卖了多少票,你知道吗?

Yue

不多。

Xinghe

大概一千七百万美元。
第一部是两亿两千五百万,

Yue

嗯。

Xinghe

差了十几倍。
你说大家的看法变了,可大家,大家没去看。

Yue

对,看的人少。
可这只是一部。
今年秋天还有一部关于马斯克的纪录片,四个小时左右,十月十六号在美国的电影院上的。
同一天,还有一部纪录片,拍的是一个开验血公司的女人,

Xinghe

嗯,后来因为诈骗进了监狱的那个。

Yue

对。
拍片子的人跟着她,拍了她进监狱前的那几个星期。
这部的评价很好。

Xinghe

嗯。

Yue

一个秋天这么多部,都是同一个方向。

Xinghe

好,这个我承认。
不是一部电影的事,方向是变了。

Yue

嗯。

Xinghe

可是,可是谁去看这些片子?
本来就不喜欢这些公司的人。
他们进电影院以前怎么想,出来以后还是怎么想。

Yue

那奥尔特曼那部呢?

Xinghe

对,那部更说明我的意思。

Yue

怎么说?

Xinghe

一部拍奥尔特曼的电影,讲二零二三年底,他突然被OpenAI赶走的那段时间。
本来是亚马逊的电影公司要做,今年六月不要了,

Yue

嗯。

Xinghe

就在亚马逊答应给OpenAI投五百亿美元以后没多久。
大的电影公司,要么是科技公司自己的,要么靠科技公司的钱。

Yue

亚马逊自己的说法是,换一家公司来发,对这部电影更好。
而且它没有被拿掉,一家小一点的公司接了,说今年还会上映。

Xinghe

小一点的公司,看的人只会更少。

Yue

能上映,能上映就够了。

Xinghe

还有一件事,

Yue

嗯。

Xinghe

你今天用了几次手机?

Yue

不数。

Xinghe

我也不数。
大家一边看这些片子,一边还在用他们的东西。

Yue

嗯,这个我没法说不是。
大家用的还是那些东西。

Xinghe

所以啊。

Yue

可你想想图灵。
我对他的印象,就是那部电影给的。

Xinghe

嗯。

Yue

过十年,大家想起扎克伯格,

Xinghe

哦。

Yue

想到的可能就是续集里那张冷冰冰的脸。

Xinghe

过十年,他的公司还在。

Yue

脸也还在。
English transcript reference

Last week you said this autumn's films have changed how they see technology bosses.

I went home and thought about it,

And you still don't believe it.

Half believe it, half don't.

Mm, then let me first say why I believe it.

In 2014 there was The Imitation Game, about Turing,

The man who helped crack the Germans' codes.

Right, in the Second World War.

The film made him a hero, it sold a lot of tickets, and it won the most famous award in film.

But Turing was a scientist, not a boss.

Right, that's why I'm talking about people who work in technology.

Back then, in films, they were changing the world.

Mm.

In 2010 there was also The Social Network, about how Zuckerberg started Facebook,

Oh, I've seen that one twice.

This October it got a sequel, which picks up where the first one left off.

It's still the man who wrote the story back then, and this time he's making it himself.

Oh.

This time, the main character is a woman who used to work at Facebook,

Mm.

She made the company's internal files public.

The Zuckerberg in the film is cold.

Cold doesn't mean bad.

Not necessarily.

But it's already far, far from a hero.

Mm.

Then here's the half I don't believe.

Do you know how much this sequel has sold in tickets worldwide so far?

Not much.

About $17 million.

The first one was 225 million,

Mm.

More than ten times less.

You say people's views have changed, but people, people didn't go and see it.

Right, not many people saw it.

But that's only one film.

This autumn there's also a documentary about Musk, about four hours long, which opened in American cinemas on 16 October.

The same day there was another documentary, about a woman who started a blood-testing company,

Mm, the one who later went to prison for fraud.

Right.

The film-makers followed her and filmed the few weeks before she went to prison.

This one got very good reviews.

Mm.

So many in one autumn, all going the same way.

OK, I admit that.

It's not about one film, the direction has changed.

Mm.

But, but who goes to see these films?

People who already don't like these companies.

Whatever they thought before going into the cinema, they still think after coming out.

Then what about the Altman one?

Right, that one shows what I mean even better.

How so?

A film about Altman, about the time at the end of 2023 when he was suddenly pushed out of OpenAI.

Amazon's film company was going to make it, and this June it didn't want it any more,

Mm.

Not long after Amazon agreed to invest $50 billion in OpenAI.

The big film companies are either owned by technology companies or depend on technology companies' money.

Amazon's own explanation was that it would be better for the film to be released by another company.

And it wasn't pulled, a smaller company took it and says it will still come out this year.

With a smaller company, even fewer people will see it.

It comes out, coming out is enough.

One more thing,

Mm.

How many times have you used your phone today?

I don't count.

I don't count either.

People watch these films while still using their things.

Mm, I can't say that's not so.

People still use the same things.

So there you go.

But think about Turing.

My picture of him came from that film.

Mm.

In ten years, when people think of Zuckerberg,

Oh.

What comes to mind may be that cold face in the sequel.

In ten years, his company will still be there.

So will the face.

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What vocabulary does this episode teach?

词汇
kējìtechnology

HSK 3. Used here before a noun: 科技公司 is a technology company, 科技老板 a technology boss.

lǎobǎnboss

HSK 3. The person who owns or runs a company. In this script it means the heads of big technology companies.

gōngkāito make public

HSK 3. As a verb: 把文件公开了 means made the papers public.

píngjiàreviews

HSK 3. What people think of something. 评价很好 means it got very good reviews.

yìnxiàngimpression

HSK 3. 我对他的印象 means my impression of him; 对 marks who the impression is about.

chéngrènto admit; to concede

HSK 4. Used when a speaker grants the other side a point: 这个我承认.

yīngxiónghero

Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. The older films made inventors into heroes; the hosts use it to compare old and new films.

xùjísequel

Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. 续 means continue and 集 means part or episode. 出了续集 means a sequel came out.

jìlùpiàndocumentary

Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. A film about real people and events. 片 is short for film, as in 片子.

lěngbīngbīngice-cold

Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. 冷 cold plus 冰冰 icy. Describes a cold, unfriendly manner, here how a film shows a person's face.

zhàpiànfraud

Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. Cheating people out of money. 因为诈骗 means because of fraud.

shàngyìngto open in cinemas

Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. Used for films: 还会上映 means it will still be shown in cinemas.

* beyond level超纲词

What grammar patterns appear in this episode?

语法

把 + Object + Verb + 成 + Result

把 moves the object before the verb. Verb + 成 shows what the object is turned into.

电影把他拍成了英雄

要么……,要么……

Either this or that. It gives the only two choices the speaker sees.

大的电影公司,要么是科技公司自己的,要么靠科技公司的钱。

一半……,一半……

Splits a feeling or answer in two: half one way, half the other.

一半信,一半不信。

……以前怎么想,……以后还是怎么想

The same question word used twice means nothing changed: they think the same way after as before.

他们进电影院以前怎么想,出来以后还是怎么想。

离 + Place / Goal + 很远

离 measures distance. It can be used for ideas as well as places: far from being a hero.

离英雄已经很远了

一边……,一边……

Two actions happen at the same time, often ones that do not fit together.

大家一边看这些片子,一边还在用他们的东西。

A 不等于 B

Says A is not the same as B, to stop the other person from jumping to a conclusion.

冷,不等于坏。

Proper nouns

专有名词
图灵TúlíngAlan Turing扎克伯格ZhākèbógéMark Zuckerberg奥尔特曼Ào'ěrtèmànSam Altman亚马逊YàmǎxùnAmazonFacebookFacebookOpenAIOpenAI德国DéguóGermany《模仿游戏》Mófǎng YóuxìThe Imitation Game《社交网络》Shèjiāo WǎngluòThe Social Network马斯克MǎsīkèElon Musk美国Měiguóthe United States奥斯卡Àosīkǎthe Oscars

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