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电影里的科技老板:从英雄到反派
Tech Bosses on Film: From Heroes to Villains
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Two hosts disagree about whether this autumn's films about tech bosses, far darker in their portrayal than The Imitation Game of 2014 and The Social Network of 2010, change how people see them. HSK 4 Chinese listening practice.
This is an HSK 4 Chinese listening episode that runs about 3 minutes. The full Mandarin script is shown with tap-for-pinyin and a line-by-line English translation, so you can listen and read at once — comprehensible input in the sense of Stephen Krashen's i+1 theory. It teaches 12 key vocabulary words such as 科技、老板、公开 and walks through 7 grammar patterns, each explained in English with examples. The same news story is retold at 3 difficulty levels — use the level selector above to find the version that is challenging but still understandable for you.
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Xinghe
你上周说,今年秋天的电影,对科技老板的看法变了。Yue
还是不信。Xinghe
一半信,一半不信。Yue
嗯,那我先说我为什么信。Xinghe
帮着破解德国人密码的那个人。Yue
对,第二次世界大战的时候。Xinghe
可图灵是科学家,不是老板。Yue
对,所以我说的是做科技的人。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
二零一零年还有《社交网络》,讲扎克伯格怎么开始做Facebook,Xinghe
哦,那部我看过两遍。Yue
今年十月,它出了续集,接着第一部往下讲。Xinghe
哦。Yue
这一次,主角是一个在Facebook工作过的女人,Xinghe
嗯。Yue
她把公司内部的文件公开了。Xinghe
冷,不等于坏。Yue
不一定。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
不多。Xinghe
大概一千七百万美元。Yue
嗯。Xinghe
差了十几倍。Yue
对,看的人少。Xinghe
嗯,后来因为诈骗进了监狱的那个。Yue
对。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
一个秋天这么多部,都是同一个方向。Xinghe
好,这个我承认。Yue
嗯。Xinghe
可是,可是谁去看这些片子?Yue
那奥尔特曼那部呢?Xinghe
对,那部更说明我的意思。Yue
怎么说?Xinghe
一部拍奥尔特曼的电影,讲二零二三年底,他突然被OpenAI赶走的那段时间。Yue
嗯。Xinghe
就在亚马逊答应给OpenAI投五百亿美元以后没多久。Yue
亚马逊自己的说法是,换一家公司来发,对这部电影更好。Xinghe
小一点的公司,看的人只会更少。Yue
能上映,能上映就够了。Xinghe
还有一件事,Yue
嗯。Xinghe
你今天用了几次手机?Yue
不数。Xinghe
我也不数。Yue
嗯,这个我没法说不是。Xinghe
所以啊。Yue
可你想想图灵。Xinghe
嗯。Yue
过十年,大家想起扎克伯格,Xinghe
哦。Yue
想到的可能就是续集里那张冷冰冰的脸。Xinghe
过十年,他的公司还在。Yue
脸也还在。English transcript reference
Last week you said this autumn's films have changed how they see technology bosses.
I went home and thought about it,
And you still don't believe it.
Half believe it, half don't.
Mm, then let me first say why I believe it.
In 2014 there was The Imitation Game, about Turing,
The man who helped crack the Germans' codes.
Right, in the Second World War.
The film made him a hero, it sold a lot of tickets, and it won the most famous award in film.
But Turing was a scientist, not a boss.
Right, that's why I'm talking about people who work in technology.
Back then, in films, they were changing the world.
Mm.
In 2010 there was also The Social Network, about how Zuckerberg started Facebook,
Oh, I've seen that one twice.
This October it got a sequel, which picks up where the first one left off.
It's still the man who wrote the story back then, and this time he's making it himself.
Oh.
This time, the main character is a woman who used to work at Facebook,
Mm.
She made the company's internal files public.
The Zuckerberg in the film is cold.
Cold doesn't mean bad.
Not necessarily.
But it's already far, far from a hero.
Mm.
Then here's the half I don't believe.
Do you know how much this sequel has sold in tickets worldwide so far?
Not much.
About $17 million.
The first one was 225 million,
Mm.
More than ten times less.
You say people's views have changed, but people, people didn't go and see it.
Right, not many people saw it.
But that's only one film.
This autumn there's also a documentary about Musk, about four hours long, which opened in American cinemas on 16 October.
The same day there was another documentary, about a woman who started a blood-testing company,
Mm, the one who later went to prison for fraud.
Right.
The film-makers followed her and filmed the few weeks before she went to prison.
This one got very good reviews.
Mm.
So many in one autumn, all going the same way.
OK, I admit that.
It's not about one film, the direction has changed.
Mm.
But, but who goes to see these films?
People who already don't like these companies.
Whatever they thought before going into the cinema, they still think after coming out.
Then what about the Altman one?
Right, that one shows what I mean even better.
How so?
A film about Altman, about the time at the end of 2023 when he was suddenly pushed out of OpenAI.
Amazon's film company was going to make it, and this June it didn't want it any more,
Mm.
Not long after Amazon agreed to invest $50 billion in OpenAI.
The big film companies are either owned by technology companies or depend on technology companies' money.
Amazon's own explanation was that it would be better for the film to be released by another company.
And it wasn't pulled, a smaller company took it and says it will still come out this year.
With a smaller company, even fewer people will see it.
It comes out, coming out is enough.
One more thing,
Mm.
How many times have you used your phone today?
I don't count.
I don't count either.
People watch these films while still using their things.
Mm, I can't say that's not so.
People still use the same things.
So there you go.
But think about Turing.
My picture of him came from that film.
Mm.
In ten years, when people think of Zuckerberg,
Oh.
What comes to mind may be that cold face in the sequel.
In ten years, his company will still be there.
So will the face.
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What vocabulary does this episode teach?
词汇HSK 3. Used here before a noun: 科技公司 is a technology company, 科技老板 a technology boss.
HSK 3. The person who owns or runs a company. In this script it means the heads of big technology companies.
HSK 3. As a verb: 把文件公开了 means made the papers public.
HSK 3. What people think of something. 评价很好 means it got very good reviews.
HSK 3. 我对他的印象 means my impression of him; 对 marks who the impression is about.
HSK 4. Used when a speaker grants the other side a point: 这个我承认.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. The older films made inventors into heroes; the hosts use it to compare old and new films.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. 续 means continue and 集 means part or episode. 出了续集 means a sequel came out.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. A film about real people and events. 片 is short for film, as in 片子.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. 冷 cold plus 冰冰 icy. Describes a cold, unfriendly manner, here how a film shows a person's face.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. Cheating people out of money. 因为诈骗 means because of fraud.
Beyond the HSK 1 to 5 lists. Used for films: 还会上映 means it will still be shown in cinemas.
* beyond level超纲词
What grammar patterns appear in this episode?
语法把 + Object + Verb + 成 + Result
把 moves the object before the verb. Verb + 成 shows what the object is turned into.
电影把他拍成了英雄
要么……,要么……
Either this or that. It gives the only two choices the speaker sees.
大的电影公司,要么是科技公司自己的,要么靠科技公司的钱。
一半……,一半……
Splits a feeling or answer in two: half one way, half the other.
一半信,一半不信。
……以前怎么想,……以后还是怎么想
The same question word used twice means nothing changed: they think the same way after as before.
他们进电影院以前怎么想,出来以后还是怎么想。
离 + Place / Goal + 很远
离 measures distance. It can be used for ideas as well as places: far from being a hero.
离英雄已经很远了
一边……,一边……
Two actions happen at the same time, often ones that do not fit together.
大家一边看这些片子,一边还在用他们的东西。
A 不等于 B
Says A is not the same as B, to stop the other person from jumping to a conclusion.
冷,不等于坏。
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