除了……,还有……
Reach for this when you want to add one more thing on top of something you've already mentioned — 'besides X, there's also Y.' It's the standard additive construction in Chinese: 除了 marks the thing you already have on the table, and 还有 introduces what you're adding. Use it when listing items, expanding a category, or pointing out that the first thing isn't the whole picture.
Structure
除了 [ITEM A] , 还有 [ITEM B]
chúle... hái yǒu...
How to Think About It
Think of 除了 as putting Item A aside on the shelf — not removing it from the list, just acknowledging 'yes, that one we know about.' Then 还有 brings out Item B as additional inventory. This is the additive flavor of 除了 ('besides, also'). The same word 除了 can also mean 'except' when paired with 都 — same grammar, opposite math. With 还有 it always means 'in addition to.'
Examples
除了米饭, 还有面条。
Chúle mǐfàn, hái yǒu miàntiáo.
Besides rice, there are also noodles.
除了英语, 我还会说一点中文。
Chúle Yīngyǔ, wǒ hái huì shuō yìdiǎn Zhōngwén.
Besides English, I can also speak a little Chinese.
除了北京, 我还想去上海和成都。
Chúle Běijīng, wǒ hái xiǎng qù Shànghǎi hé Chéngdū.
Besides Beijing, I also want to go to Shanghai and Chengdu.
Common Mistake
Learners often drop 还 and write 除了……,有…… because they translate word-for-word from 'besides X, there is Y.' But Chinese needs 还 to mark Y as an addition — without it, the sentence sounds incomplete and the additive logic is missing.
除了苹果, 有香蕉。
除了苹果, 还有香蕉。
Don't Confuse With
除了……,都……
Same opener 除了, but with 都 it means 'except' — Item A is the exception, everything else applies. '除了他, 大家都来了' = 'Except him, everyone came.' Switch to 还有 only when you mean 'in addition to.'
不但……而且……
不但...而且... links two qualities or actions of the same subject ('not only smart, but also kind'). 除了...还有... lists separate items in a category.
还有
Solo 还有 just tacks on another thing without flagging the first one. 除了...还有... explicitly frames the first item as already known/given, then adds. The 除了 half changes the rhetorical setup.
Practice
___ 咖啡, 还有茶。
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除了
除了周末, 我 ___ 有星期三休息。
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还
Put in order: [还有 / 我 / 除了 / 一个 / 弟弟 / 妹妹 / 一个]
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除了一个弟弟, 我还有一个妹妹。
Translate to Chinese: 'Besides apples, there are also oranges and grapes.'
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除了苹果, 还有橙子和葡萄。
Write one sentence listing two hobbies you have, using 除了……,还有……
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Example answer: 除了看书, 我还喜欢跑步。 (Besides reading, I also like running.)
Hear It in Real Episodes
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